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Calling all Heroes. Mark Garner reveals Manchester Confidential model and 'gobsmacking' response | Print |  Email to a friend
Friday, 13 November 2009

Manchester Confidential's Mark Garner is not a man to mince his words.
Manchester Confidential's Mark Garner is not a man to mince his words.

Talking about the controversial subscription model for his currently free-to-view online empire he brushes off any criticism he has received (mainly on the How-Do comment board) and tells us that "it's time more publishers put their balls on the table and took a chance."

He has, he says, and it's already paying off.

A stupid move? 

Garner revealed his plans to launch a paid for subs model on How-Do last month, potentially throwing into jeopardy an online brand that he and his team have spent years building and that, according to his latest figures, attracted some 320,000 readers in October.

"I've had people telling me that it was the end of Manchester Confidential," he admitted, "that it was a stupid move.

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Garner: still laughing
"I've had a lot of sleepless nights about it lately.

"In a way I've felt like a kid getting ready to throw a birthday party and crapping myself that no one's going to come.

"But you know what, I opened the doors yesterday, the guests started turning up... and I've never felt better."

As you may be able to garner from Garner's analogy the first stage of the subs model rolled out yesterday with the launch of the Confidential Heroes.

If the new Man Con is being marketed as a member's only club, then the Heroes is the VIP lounge.

The lowdown

For a monthly sum of £10 (and an additional £1.20 booking fee), £30 a quarter (no fee) or £100 a year (all in) Man Con Heroes get full access to the site and a host of exclusive benefits. These include prior notice on exclusive dining and retail deals, VIP guest list access for a host of events, at least 50% off ticket prices for Confidential events and free access to the Confidential Food and Drink Awards, which normally comes in at £80 per head.

Heroes membership is being limited to 1,000 subscribers - yes, that means £100,000 of extra income - which, we can feel the fingers hovering over keyboards now, Garner feels is going to be more than easily attainable... within the next week.

"We've already have 300 people signing up in the first 24 hours," he claimed. "That's exceeded our expectations, it's gob-smacking. We think we'll have the rest of the Heroes on board within the next week."

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Worth the money?
What's more, Garner has been surprised by the immediate uptake of the annual subs.

"We were expecting maybe 80% to sign up on a monthly basis, but that hasn't happened.

"Out of that initial 300 we have about 36% on the yearly plan, 42% quarterly and only 22% monthly," he noted, implying that that showed the degree of faith his followers now have in the established brand.

Fluff free future

How-Do readers of quicksilver cranial capability will take note that there's a slight disparity here between the 320,000 claimed readers from last month and the audience of a mere 1,000 that Garner is currently attempting to woo. Is he basically binning everyone else?

"I said last time that a great deal of any readership figure is fluff, and I stand by that.

"We've never courted Google, never engaged in any SEO, so I think our readership figures are more robust than say the MEN's online stats, or The Daily Mail with their countless millions of readers - ours generally don't find us by accident - but there's still fluff.

"What we hope to concentrate on is perhaps 50,000 to 80,000 key transactors - people that gain value from our site and our deals, and people that our advertisers want to engage with.

"We're not frightened by losing the fluff."

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So, when Manchester Confidential actually relaunches as a subscriber site (sometime between mid December and mid January) it will be with a three-tiered readership base.

The 50,000 to 80,000 will be mostly guests, with limited access to content, an undisclosed target figure of 'Confidential Friends' will have full access (for which they will be expected to pay "£60 a year or thereabouts") and the top table Heroes will have their various VIP perks.

"The Friends will be popular," said Garner, of the secondary subs offer he will launch next week.

"It works out at a bit over £1 a week, from which the average user can save £15 a week on our deals. Who can say no to that?"

No doubt a lot of people will, as Man Con is trailblazing a path through dangerous and uncharted territory with its move over to a paid model.

Garner is supremely confident that his readers, the non-fluffy ones at any rate, will be lured in by "content that they can't get anywhere else, deals they can't get anywhere else" but only time will tell.

It is a bold, risky and potentially lucrative adventure for the Man Con team and one that a lot of people will surely be watching with great interest... but only if they're prepared to cough up for the privilege of doing so.

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 1 By amazed, on 13-11-2009 15:29
if these figures are correct then I am stunned. 1,000 subs at this rate and a few ads chucked in here and there and the site has a sustainable model.  
That is quite a result for Garner and his team. 
Still cynical, but if he can pull this off this will be a benchmark model for other niche sites to follow.
 2 By cynical, on 13-11-2009 15:37
not really, £100,000 between the 6 or 7 staff at ManCon with a few ads (which you won't be able to charge an awful lot for with only a couple of 1,000 subsribers) isn't really sustainable!  
If you want cheap dining you'd be best off getting a highlife card for £50 which you can use all over the northwest at 100's of restaurants. why pay £60 a year for a few vouchers at already cheap restaurants?
 3 By Freemium Economy, on 13-11-2009 15:46
How about I pay £20 a year but I'm not arsed about coming to the Food & drink Awards - so knock that off? And a few ads is fine then. 
 
"never engaged in any SEO" - well the bloody stuff still keeps coming on Google when you search for things. It's like saying you've never engaged in oxygen. Just because you don't believe in miracles doesn't mean they don't happen.
 4 By Mark Garner website, on 13-11-2009 17:20
Just to be clear, there will be 2000 Heroes by launch of new site, and approximately 10,000 friends, who will be paying half the heroes subs. Then there will still be the 'free to air' stories so we will have thirty to forty thousand further weekly readers whom we will constantly be pitching into membership. The core readership should therefore be no less than 40,000, more likey 70,000 and those will be a highly engaged C1's on the way up audience of great value to our advertisers who spend many tens of thousands of pounds each month. I believe this is the niche model and I have put my money where my mouth is. Freemium, we have never engaged in SEO, full stop. We don't tell fairy stories. On the other hand I don't block their spiders. But it is fair to say that my readers have come to me in the main from one form of advertising that is probably the most effective; word of mouth. Says something bout my editorial and commercial team that.
 5 By Mark Garner website, on 13-11-2009 17:30
Cynical, BTW, High Life cards are known as Low Life cards in the F&B industry. If you think that Mancon is just about a few vouchers at cheap resaurants, can I mention this last one month Strictly Confidential deal? Ramsons, restaurant of the year, straight 50% off AT ANY TIME. Kitchen, exclusive menu, at any time, Obsidien, exclusive menu at any time, The Lowry Hotel exclusive menu at any time...three red carpet do's money can't buy... sorry i could go on. Don't compare High Life, a perfect place to sell slippers and coffins, with the Mancon readership. Oh, and four of the best food and drink writers in the North West and notoriously honest food reviews and winners of the best brand awards against Granada and the MEN and Media Entrepreneur of the year. Golly, i think we may actually be doing something right. Oh, 96,000 emails going out each and every day. Blimey.
 6 By The Judge, on 13-11-2009 19:26
".......and notoriously honest food reviews ....." of advertisers venues???
 7 By JohnD, on 14-11-2009 09:21
I agree totally with The Judge. In my opinion this is no different to what local newspapers have been doing for years. 'Buy some advertising and we'll write nice things about you'.
 8 By Judge, interesting article for, on 14-11-2009 12:51
Judge, read this. Interesting. 
http://www.manchesterconfidential.com/index.asp?Sessionx=IpqiNwy6JWblKHqiNwF6IHqi& realname=Confidentials_food_reviews_the_shocking_truth_expos ed
 9 By Sharon, on 14-11-2009 12:52
It's interesting that Garner mentions free to view articles. If he's clever, the deals and the like will be membership but the articles and so on will be free to air to ensure the readership stays with them...and the advertisers
 10 By Brian, on 14-11-2009 12:52
If I was someone interested in attending a food and drink awards event (a restaurateur perhaps?) and someone offered me a ticket for £100 with a 'bonus' of full access to a site and a few perks. It would be a bit of a different picture to the average site visitor wanting to subscribe. Of course to offer someone a deal like that when you don't collect tel numbers or have a link to a payment page suggests that your first subscribers have received a phone call or an e-mail offer and are perhaps your existing advertisers or event attendees?  
 
A look at ManCons own messageboard on Sat morning suggests their average readers are unlikely to pay a subs.
 11 By Mark Garner website, on 14-11-2009 20:33
Judge, email me if you want to come down to the Mancon offices and inspect, on behalf of the How Do conspiracy theorists, our review files. You can then comment on something you know something about. 
 
Brian, we have emailed 12,000 of the people who have transacted with us in the last twelve months; we have a further 51,000 to go. No phone calls were made, the top transactors obviously get first bite of the cherry. Now, again, if you wish to audit this on behalf of your fellow doubting Thomases, email me and I will allow you to inspect our system in the Mancon offices.  
 
Sharon, now you I would like to meet simply because you have thought it through and you ain't far off the answer!
 12 By Adam, on 14-11-2009 20:34
Highlife are doing something right if Mark feels the need to refer to them by what he calls their 'industry name.' If he dislikes what Highlife do so much, why doesn't he just leave them to it? ManCon, or The Man Con as a lot of people refer to it, have come up with their model, and good luck to them. If he's so confident about his new model, I don't see why he feels the need to throw stones at so many operations. If it's not Highlife, it's the comments from his editorial team about the MEN. To say they have never paid any interest to SEO is nonsense, unless they just happened to have a very odd, but strangely SEO friendly, headline writing style from the start. ManCon isn't for me, I find it too 'aren't we clever and sooo funny' but someone must like them, assuming Mark's numbers are accurate. Perhaps naming some of his advertisers who he has subsequently written bad reviews about would dispell some myths too
 13 By ~Fluff", on 14-11-2009 20:35
Sorry that I can't afford to piss away £100+ a year on reading your site. But I guess you don't care about the people like me who you can't exploit, can you?
 14 By Kid Disco, on 14-11-2009 22:37
Never use the offers Fluff? I tend to use at least one restaurant deal a month. Two for ones and the like, I guess they save me what, £30 a meal? So if I start paying I'm still saving. But I don't really want to pay £10 a month, I don't mind about extras, so I hope there's a cheaper sub too.
 15 By Brian, on 15-11-2009 09:48
Firstly its not about being a doubting Thomas.(you aren't Christ) Its about learning. If a website owner says this is a way forward in a difficult climate, then people like me want to understand how it becomes feasible and how it may work. Using my rough calculations based purely on the info you provided here eg 300 subs out of a 12,000 mailing and with 52,000 to go at. It indicates a 1-40 response. A combined total of 1600 potential paying subs. If a 1,000 slice signs up at £100 and and the remaining 1300 at £60 then you trouser £136k pa. That will be unequivocally impressive. The next questions of interest to me is. 'Does a potential loss of site visitors equate to a drop in advertising revenue greater than £136k?' and also what will you be doing that will encourage new potential subs to replace the natural fall out?
 16 By Mark Garner website, on 16-11-2009 09:51
Well Brian, I have had to walk on water through the recession, so I feel like I am at the moment. However, the 300 is on the first pass of the 12,000, which means that over time we would harvest a multiple of seven of that figure. You need to factor in open rates. I am retiring from this chat for a while now, we have a lot of work to do.
 17 By Barney Cull, on 16-11-2009 11:32
I'm sure Sharon is indeed closest to Mark's strategy, but I'm not so convinced she had to think long and hard about it. Indeed several people have discussed Man Con with me recently (yep, you're being talked about, that's good!) and all arrived at a similar end point within about 60 seconds. Murdoch, who Mark has compared his approach to, is talking about charging for online content - end of. What Mark appears to be proposing is to leave the vast majority of his site content free, thus creating an audience and a marketing platform to sell his value-added services to (in this case VIP offers and dining deals). All sounds very sensible, but let's not pretend this is some universal panacea as regards a model for paid for online content - this is simply pitching a deal that costs £x and saves the purchaser £y, and if y is greater than x then that is a much stronger sales pitch then trying to pin a hard value on something as subjective and intangiable as journalism. Also, let's not pretend this is new thinking, as several B2B sites went down exactly the same route (offering discounted deals on commercial services to members/visitors a la trade associations) about a decade ago, and more recently In:Out magazine launched a VIP/discount deal membership scheme alongside it's print offering. Penultimately, don't let's knock Hi-Life. It's not for everyone, and I know restaurateurs gripe (boy do they like to gripe) but they're not forced to sign up, and it delivers something it's paying members value whilst generating metrics and financials that are hugely impressive and something many of us could aspire too. Finally, and in summing up, I say hats off to Mark; he's been open and candied that his turnover and profitability has taken a hit, but he has taken a look at his business, taken a look around, and made a brave decision as to how to evolve and move forward. I'm sure most business owners can echo Mark's suffering (we should certainly be responding in a similar way) and it's nice to know we're not alone in this. Again though, the take home message is that it is disingenuous to pretend this debate is about paid for content online, it's about deriving other revenue streams from an online audience that know and trust a media brand. He's not the Messiah, though he quite probably is a very naughty boy.
 18 By Brian, on 16-11-2009 11:59
This deserves success. It is out of the box thinking, fighting against recession. Makes an admirable change when set against the accountancy led disband the sales office and create a nice balance sheet for this months shareholder meeting. We frequently see that wrapped up in facile press releases from other publishers.
 19 By Paul Fabretti website, on 16-11-2009 12:50
Folks, let's put this in perspective. Had initial figures not been so encouraging, you would have all criticised Mark's approach. 
 
That said, there is nothing innovative about the approach - just a lot of "balls" and utter faith that the content in the site is so compelling that even with an inevitable drop-off in traffic and therefore subscribers (as awareness grows of the subscription model grows), people will continue to pay for what they perceive to be something of value. 
 
I'm all for the approach, especially if it does in fact deliver the additional value that paid-for content alludes to.
 20 By James Crawford website, on 20-11-2009 10:42
Say it like it is Mark. Good on you.
 21 By Disappointed, on 20-11-2009 13:34
I am a regular ManCon reader and have been invited to be a ‘Hero’. This is a n offer I will not be taking up however. I am most disappointed in the ManCon ‘pay’ model. I frequently use the dining offers and do not believe it still represents VFM to pay to view them before then paying for the actual experience. 
 
Brian – if this is “fighting against recession”, why is it that the pockets of one person are lined before the regions businesses and restaurants. Economic stability can better be achieved through continued and direct spend with the businesses and restaurants themselves, instead of helping Mark Garner fight his own personal recession.  
 
I don’t believe that ManCon will ever achieve a similar readership again now this move has happened – I, like others, will save my £11.20 a month, £30 a quarter (no fee) or £100 a year and spend it directly, though I dare say, unfortunately less frequently.
 22 By PC, on 20-11-2009 14:28
I am a regular reader and get regular email updates but havent heard anything about being a Hero and havent been invited, I feel rather left out!!
 23 By Dylan, on 20-11-2009 15:39
Disappointed is wrong. If you want it, you pay for it. This is not about anyone's personal recession. The media is an industry.
 24 By TC, on 20-11-2009 17:54
The media is an industry Dylan, but what Mark would like us to pay for is not the media content itself is it, it's the dining deals and offers.
 25 By Brian, on 20-11-2009 18:31
Disappointed? Money goes around. (or should) It doesnt matter if one business makes some and another does not. It gets spent again somewhere and that benefits everyone. This recession is not because there is no money, its because people like you are spending less but expecting more. No doubt your own clients or customers do the same. Incidentally It hasnt affected me. My spending habits are the same because I havent got much money in the first place.
 26 By Graham, on 18-12-2009 17:52
Have you noticed that on the ManCon site they are now approving 'rants' before they go 'live', and surprisingly there aren't any dissenting rants that I can find on the site any more! I think the site is interesting, and I'm happy to have the adverts and 'fluff' stories, but it's expensive for what it proposed.
 27 By John Smith, on 22-01-2010 16:55
The new website is positively nauseating and looks like an over-eager, first-year meeja studies student has designed it. The 2,000 'heroes' and 10,000 'frlends' is, in reality, 300 heroes and 1,000 friends, massively short of Mr. Garner's confident prediction in November. Notwithstanding that the membership offer has been extended several times and the cost of being a friend, reduced to half the original price. As`someone said today, it will be like watching a giant iceberg slowly melt
 28 By Impartial Observer, on 22-01-2010 17:38
ManCon should be ashamed of the way they sell user data regardless of the wishes of the customer. I recently watched with my own eyes, a colleague of mine sign up, and instantly receive email from third parties to the address he signed up with. Bad form. Really bad.
 29 By Luke Warm Netherlandish, on 23-01-2010 08:30
Run that by me again..."I said last time that a great deal of any readership figure is fluff, and I stand by that." Do I take that to mean the previous figure for readership, er, what shall we say, contained artificial flavouring? If so how can we believe any figures Mark supplies?
 30 By John Smith, on 23-01-2010 10:31
Yep. The 268,000 readers they had in December actually equated to 122,000 unique views. Meaning thast an awful lot of their readers use several names to log in from the same IP address. You know what they say about statistics......
 31 By Paddy Murphy, on 25-01-2010 10:26
Mister Smith is correct, but not necessarily fair in this context. A lot of people share the same IP address, company employees, people using wi fi hotspots and even hackers. (Handy tip my chief suspect hacker gave up once I started using his car reg as my password)
 32 By Robert Smith, on 26-01-2010 20:25
If the 1 in 6 take up was from their most active users it is going to decline massively as they trawl through everybody that has ever visited the site. 
 
I have used the site for years and despite the emails that were daily at one point inviting me to subscribe will not be paying for it. 
 
It appears that I cannot access any content on the site anymore - I tried over 6 different articles. As a result I tried to unsubscribe last week but am still receiving (pointless) emails. If I try and unsubscribe now it says that I am already unsubscribed and I just contacted their problem unsubscribing address and the email has been returned as undeliverable. 
 
POOR all round.

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