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GMG Regional Media to be sold to Trinity Mirror, Dodson and Spratt depart | Print |  Email to a friend
Tuesday, 09 February 2010
The Guardian Media Group has announced that it has agreed to sell GMG Regional Media, publisher of the Manchester Evening News, to Trinity Mirror plc for a total consideration of £44.8 million.
The Guardian Media Group has announced that it has agreed to sell GMG Regional Media, publisher of the Manchester Evening News, to Trinity Mirror plc for a total consideration of £44.8 million.

In a statement just released by GMG, the business said that the deal included all the regional papers published by the group (some 22 titles in the North West and 10 in the South of England) and their associated websites, but excluded the Channel M broadcasting business and the firm's Woking-based titles.

Chief executive Mark Dodson and MEN Media MD Ruth Spratt are both set to leave the business, while David Sharrock, currently chief operating officer of GMG Regional Media, will now move to be MD of MEN Media.

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Trinity bound
Carolyn McCall, chief executive of Guardian Media Group, said: “The Manchester Evening News and its sister titles have made a huge contribution to the fortunes of the Group for the best part of a century.

"GMG would like to pay tribute to all the staff for their hard work and achievement in a sector dealing with structural change as well as economic downturn.
 
“GMG is mandated to secure the future of the Guardian in perpetuity, and we have a strong portfolio which has to be in the right shape to achieve that goal. The Group board and the Scott Trust have made the decision to sell in light of these strategic objectives.
 

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Dodson: departing
“GMG Regional Media is a good business and a publisher of important newspapers. However, we believe Trinity Mirror, as one of the UK’s biggest regional publishers, is best placed to develop this business in a market that is likely to consolidate further. We are therefore confident that this decision is in the best long-term interests of the regional business and its staff, as well as delivering real value for the Group.
 
“Mark Dodson has been a major part of GMG Regional Media’s success over many years. He and his leadership team have shown creativity, courage and determination in a very tough media market. We thank them for that.”

Rumours of the proposed sale first broke towards the end of last year. It is now expected to be finalised by 28 March.

The agreement will be seen as a watershed, of sorts, in what has been a tumultuous period for the MEN and its sister operations.

The past year has since swingeing staff cuts, office closures, the departures of key individuals and the paring back of Channel M services, as the group fought to counter the economic situation and a concomitant loss of ad revenue.

Update: Staff at MEN Media have been told by management that the firm is now set to move its operations from Manchester city centre to Oldham.

A spokesperson for GMG informed How-Do that "Trinity Mirror propose to relocate staff in Scott Place to their premises in Oldham, and this will be discussed fully with staff and their representatives."

The move will see the paper leaving its spiritual city centre home and the relocation of many staff that were only recently moved into Manchester when the group's regional satellite newspaper offices were closed down.

Trinity currently prints MEN Media's stable of 22 newspaper titles at its facilities in Chadderton.

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 1 By Good luck, on 09-02-2010 11:28
Huge cuts and consolidation between the Liverpool Trinity and Manchester GMG outposts now await.  
 
Sorry 'efficiencies', not cuts. 
 
Best of British to all at the MEN and co
 2 By George Dearsley, on 09-02-2010 11:36
TIMBERRRRRRRR! I really feel so sorry for the many journos who will now lose their jobs after putting in so much effort over the last fews years to keep GMG going.
 3 By Diogenes, on 09-02-2010 11:39
“Mark Dodson has been a major part of GMG Regional Media’s success over many years. He and his leadership team have shown creativity, courage and determination in a very tough media market. We thank them for that.” Now p*ss off!
 4 By Karma, on 09-02-2010 11:43
If Channel M was Mark Dodson's baby and he was such a titan (no pun intended) how come he has been allowed to leave? One can only assume the valediction was given through clenched teeth. What a fiasco. The British generals at the Somme showed better judgement the GMG's management.
 5 By ChristinaMc, on 09-02-2010 11:43
Whilst the M.E.N is a shadow of its former self, this is still a very sad day for the former Manchester Guardian. In wishing to bolster its national arm, the Guardian has just proceeded to sell its parent newspaper down the river. Further redundancies - and the shedding of some local papers can only follow.  
 
Good luck to all who still work there, and who work so hard under increasingly difficult conditions.
 6 By Mr_Osato, on 09-02-2010 11:49
Rumour a couple of months ago was a £27 million price tag with Channel M included - it seems that getting rid of parasite TV has added a few quid to the asking price, but I'm sure it'll be worth every penny. Pity no attempt was made to find a local owner who gives a toss about the products, though
 7 By Carl Johnstone, on 09-02-2010 12:01
Trinity said that Channel M didn't fit their strategy, so that part of the business hasn't been sold and is being retained by GMG.
 8 By Trinity Mirror Employee, on 09-02-2010 12:03
@Mr_Osato Channel M is not included in the deal and its only 7m in cash. The rest is an existing contract to print.
 9 By ex-men, on 09-02-2010 12:12
Wasn't Crains saying on Monday the deal was off? 
Fingers crossed for those who remain there. Fairly shameful betrayal of Manchester by GMG.  
Wouldn't pay Dodson, Spratt et al in washers.
 10 By Thanks London, on 09-02-2010 12:22
Manchester - stabbed in the back by the Guardian Media Group & Scott Trust. Well what do you expect from the "phony liberals" of London? 
Thanks Carolyn.
 11 By Captain Smith, on 09-02-2010 12:45
....oh 5h!t...it is an iceberg after all.....
 12 By Sly eye, on 09-02-2010 12:51
"....as well as delivering real value for the Group..." 
Yes, it delivers real value to the Guardian Media Group which trousers £44 mill in the blink of an eye without getting printers' ink all over their fingers.
 13 By Richard, on 09-02-2010 13:13
With Mark Dodson gone, what future does Channel M have within GMG? It's not only a sad day for the staff of the MEN and the other NW papers, but also for those who still work away at Channel M for little reward or recognition, none of which is their fault. 
 
One good thing Trinity Mirror will probably do is move to some cheaper office space. That pile in Spinningfields is costing the MEN a fortune.
 14 By Trinity Mirror Employee, on 09-02-2010 13:14
@Sly eye, The crazy thing is they only pocket 7m. Which is about 1 years profit made in the worst trading conditions ever.
 15 By Bean Counter, on 09-02-2010 13:15
The print folks' troubles have only just begun. Trinity's share price fell on the news and those pesky shareholders will want some ROI A.S.A.P - if I was working for MEN Media, I'd start updating my CV.....
 16 By Laddie GaGa, on 09-02-2010 13:21
Now Channel M is free of the stifling constraints of the MEN Media dinosaurs it can truly show the north west how TV broadcasting should be done. The fine team which has been suffocated for so long, shackled by old fashioned ideas and strategies, can now let their creative heart and soul sing unfettered. I foresee an exodus from BBC and Granada over the next few days.
 17 By Paul, on 09-02-2010 13:28
It's actually a £7.4m deal. 
 
£37.4m is for them to be released from the long term printing contract. 
 
But since they print the MEN papers at Trinity Mirror's plant in Chadderton, they've just released themselves from a contract with themselves...?
 18 By Paul, on 09-02-2010 13:29
Oh, and apparently they're moving all the staff to Oldham...
 19 By Diogenes, on 09-02-2010 13:46
Laddie GaGa...can I have some of what you're smoking?
 20 By meandmymum, on 09-02-2010 13:48
who will edit the MEN?
 21 By Oh Dear, on 09-02-2010 13:49
So "no city centre" police station and now "no city centre" newspaper. (Not to mention the imminent loss of Granada, Channel M & the BBC from the city centre too!) This is like the 1980s all over again! 
Yes, er, Manchester an international class city - DOH! Over to you Messrs Leese, Stringer & Bernstein!
 22 By Karma, on 09-02-2010 13:59
Staff to Oldham, buildings advertised in Estates Gazette, everything else on e Bay. CP Scott of the Ar*e-antics!
 23 By BBC Fan, on 09-02-2010 14:24
By Laddie GaGa, on 09-02-2010 13:21  
Now Channel M is free of the stifling constraints of the MEN Media dinosaurs it can truly show the north west how TV broadcasting should be done. The fine team which has been suffocated for so long, shackled by old fashioned ideas and strategies, can now let their creative heart and soul sing unfettered. I foresee an exodus from BBC and Granada over the next few days. 
 
Laddie GaGa - Please let me know when the aliens return with your brain. Clearly you are struggling without it.
 24 By VKG, on 09-02-2010 14:25
Oldham? 
Bad Luck.
 25 By Oldhamer, on 09-02-2010 14:36
Still, every cloud.
 26 By erm, on 09-02-2010 14:39
Isn't GMG in the process of setting up its hyper-local news/blog sites for a few cities, Manchester included. 
So, do they believe in regional media or not?
 27 By Midas, on 09-02-2010 14:47
Oldham wins inward investment and highly skilled jobs...
 28 By regionalboy, on 09-02-2010 14:59
Trinity are going to slash it to bits but its probably for the best long term. MEN is bloated in a public sectoresque way at the moment.  
Ultimately though, this boils down to a lack of interest in local news. The information superhighway means more choice of information, and globalisation means less interest in local news. 
Look at any issue of MEN. Its mostly boring.
 29 By Paul, on 09-02-2010 15:01
Erm: Manchester was excluded from the GuardianCities project. Rusbridger literally promised as much to Horrocks. Obviously that promise is now null and void!
 30 By erm, on 09-02-2010 15:24
Paul, fair enough if Manchester was excluded (although as you say that may change now) but I'm wondering about how they view regional media as a whole. 
If they're investing in the Cities project while at the same time withdrawing from the regions in all other regards then it just seems a bit nonsensical. 
You think?
 31 By Loggedoff, on 09-02-2010 16:28
An astute move indeed by Trinity. £7m for all those titles and goodwill. They could sell them next week for double. 
GMG bosses should hang their heads in shame for allowing the loss of these titles for such a small price.
 32 By Ex employee now online, on 09-02-2010 16:37
I have to say, this is a real shame. The MEN is a major media title in the North West but frankly you could see this coming a mile off. To hang your hat on a TV Channel that has in reality very few viewers, whilst the online world is ripping you apart is, frankly, ludicrous.  
You have to seriously question the management decisions that have been made over the last few years and wonder how some have remained in the positions that they are currently (or not) in. No doubt Mr Dodson will have a nice redundancy package whilst the 'shop floor' get to travel to Oldham...magic!
 33 By reader, i sold them, on 09-02-2010 16:41
i'd rather have a Manchester Echo than a Liverpool Evening News.
 34 By Anon, on 09-02-2010 16:52
There is some real tallent at the MEN. I hope it isn't lost. You have to commend the online team who have really taken a shine to implementing different technologies onto their site despite the cuts which happened earlier on last year. 
 
The Google Maps mash-ups of petrol prices were great. Then we had live tweetings from journos on the frontline all done through Cover It Live. 
 
I am feeling rather pessimistic and disappointed with the Trinity Mirror buyout. The Liverpool Echo reflects the city and the grief and blame throughout the journalism. I hope that sort of sensationalism doesn't come to the MEN. 
 
RIP MEN.
 35 By Babbinel, on 09-02-2010 17:08
If Dodson and Spratt are going, it's indicative that the new leadership of MEN Media want to release the agressive entrenched management of MEN Media. If they are doing that, are they honour bound (or contractually obliged) to get rid of other agressive senior managers/directors? Are they to keep their jobs? I would hope that unlike GMG, Trinity mirror does not reward p!ss poor underachievers. Is Paul Horrocks to go? A shame if he is, he's a very fair chap who has had to enforce awful decisions made by Dodson's team.
 36 By Paul, on 09-02-2010 17:15
A fiver says GMG relocate half of The Guardian operation up North once MEN have left Scott Place. 
 
GMG have retained the lease which is something like 25 years long... Mirror have got 6 months to leave. That's a big liability on GMG's books unless they're going to use it.  
 
And it's a damned sight easier to sublet their new London office space than Spinningfields... They've had two floors there empty for nearly 2 years now.
 37 By Paul, on 09-02-2010 17:17
Babbinel - Paul Horrocks left last year!
 38 By Diogenes, on 09-02-2010 17:24
"Horrocks is a very fair chap who has had to enforce awful decisions made by Dodson's team." Hmmmm. Could he not have argued more on behalf of a different strategy and - if ignored - chosen to quit? I know of other editors who have done so in similar situations. It might not have changed the history of the MEN but it might have increased his personal reputation. Many ex-staffers regard PH as a yes man, rightly or wrongly.
 39 By Not surprised, on 09-02-2010 17:48
Granada Sky Broadcasting, Granada Reports, BBC Radio Manchester breakfast, Channel M, the Manchester Evening News! Heck where is Eamonn O'Neal (and his band of out-of-touch cronies) going to turn up at & lay waste to audience figures next?? 
 
Whether it be local TV, local radio or local print - Manchester just doesn't produce/attract "good enough" media professionals anymore. That's our problem. London is laughing!
 40 By Scott Free, on 09-02-2010 17:56
All that one can say to The Guardian overlords is thanks for nothing!  
While the Guardian's editorial staff can reside in the knowledge of free speech and espouse liberal nonsense. The MEN carthorse and its weeklies have been flogged to death, to shore up your loss making endeavours.  
And in the best traditions of true liberal values, when there's a call to the lifeboats, instead of trying to help out its regional titles, the Scott Trust is already chuffing well heading off into the sunset!
 41 By Tony Murray, on 09-02-2010 18:31
The current management of GMG have let down the people of Manchester, where the liberal tradition of newspaper publishing began, in almost every way. The fact that it is being delivered into to the hands of individuals like Sly Bailey is unbelievably sad. It is no lobger manc-centric. It is a very sad day for the city. It has lost a huge part of its heritage. A dreadful day
 42 By Anon, on 09-02-2010 18:45
I think you will find that Trinity have a realistic business sense and took one look at Channel M and though.. Not a chance. Keeping our papers going was ad revenue due to readership though papers being free. As we are finding out after the 12% reduction of 10 weekly papers two weeks ago nobody is queuing up to buy them at the local newsagents for their readability. I would have to say lokoing at the figures the only thing coming to Channel M is Car boot of tin pot Rav 4's.. not freedom from constraints.
 43 By Crapped On, on 09-02-2010 18:55
A refit of Chadderton to house 400+ employees, I doubt it very much, I don't think either Trinity or GMG have been honest, or are going to be honest about their intentions.
 44 By Gollum, on 09-02-2010 18:57
It's been clear for a while that traditional print media is on its last legs. The MEN shutting its city centre shop and moving out to Oldham is absolutely no surprise to me - its symptomatic of the way the entire industry is going. Cuts, cuts, cuts. 
But, let's have a bit of perspective here, the MEN's future is clearly online and through apps to smartphones/iPads etc. 
That kind of operation just doesn't warrant the staffing levels at places like the MEN. 
The future is in small, iPhone/iPad sized news delivery from compact and efficient news teams with small overheads - even in the biggest UK cities. 
I fully expect the rest of the regional media to follow suit within a surprisingly short time period. 
Having said all that GMG and its management cronies have run the MEN into the ground in order to pursue 'convergence' in a field where regional media is already Dodo-like - who the hell produces decent regional TV anymore? Channel M was a joke from Day one, at least that's what their viewers told me - both of them.
 45 By Me again, on 09-02-2010 19:35
What's going to happen to GMG Group and GNM staff in Scott Place? Eg Pensions, Accounts, Regional Sales, etc
 46 By Crapped On, on 09-02-2010 23:29
@ Me again 
 
They'll be given counselling, training courses and bonuses from the 7 million quid. and when that runs out...........................
 47 By Anon, on 09-02-2010 23:32
Part of the £7mil is going into GMG paying 6 months of pensions to the MEN staff and most of whats left of the cash will be going to pay off this years rent for scott place!! so they will not really be making any money out of this deal.
 48 By Captain Chaos, on 09-02-2010 23:46
Ahh, good to see the vultures have descended, revelling in the news people might lose their jobs. Bravo! You should all be very proud of yourselves.
 49 By Calais, on 10-02-2010 00:48
It's always the same here thought Captain Chaos, isn't it? Isn't it just possible that Channel M drained the MEN group of so much cash that TM might not find it possible to really cut from editorial?
 50 By Laddie GaGa, on 10-02-2010 00:49
@BBC Fan....O.M.G.....it's the same BBC fan who didn't get my Christmas Day joke post under another alias isn't it? It is, isn't it???? Christ, I hardly know where to begin. I suppose, really, that's why you're a BBC fan! I bet you never miss Shameless either, do you????????? Pass the sick bucket.
 51 By Susan Bell, on 10-02-2010 02:25
Please, let us not forget that if it was not for Mark Dodson, the cut of staff from GMG would have been much greater. He was and is a very fine manager and individual. This is not the fault of anyone in Manchester, instead it is the fault of those at GMG in London who were demanding much greater cuts for over 18 months.  
 
Well done Mark, a tough job and you are well out of it.
 52 By Susan Boyle, on 10-02-2010 11:03
Of course, that rather large bonus Dodson pocketed for cutting the jobs he did cut will have helped him fight that good fight, Susan?
 53 By Ninja Warrior, on 10-02-2010 11:21
Its a shame the paper will no longer be city centre based - but who really cares where its based and who owns it as long as its cranking out what people want? Maybe if they focus the content on more local stories from right across Greater Manchester using the pool of local reporters they have, more people would pick it up again.  
Am I alone in missing good old fashioned planning stories and all about cats stuck in trees - liberal investagative journalism - pah!!
 54 By Scott Free, on 10-02-2010 12:25
Well, let's all hear it for poor Mr Dodson. 
If one takes a look at the Trinity Mirror model as it was employed in Liverpool where it centralised all of its operation it's clear that the model was embarked upon at least 18 months ago by Mr Dodson.  
He told staff last year the move of the weeklies to Scott Place was to consolidate the business and take it forward, but now in hindsight, it was all a smokescreen to flog MEN and its weeklies to the lowest bidder.  
In fact Trinity Mirror have paid little or nothing for the MEN, and will get a large chunk of pension money, no doubt to pay remaining staff their redundancy somewhere shortly down the line 
A big round of applause for management and doubles all round- cheers!
 55 By Exmen, on 10-02-2010 12:48
Susan Bell you obviously didn't work for Mr Dodson did you? I worked there for many years and saw the complete mess he made of things. For example cutting the Online department to fund Channel M at a time when the MEN had an immensely strong online brand second only to ThisisLondon in UU's and PI's. Although the MEN's online brand has now regained some credibility, it's still years behind where it could have been but for a bit of foresight.  
It's a great shame that the MEN has come to this but in every cloud there is a silver lining and this particular cloud has been lined with the departures of Spratt and Dodson.
 56 By Are we..., on 10-02-2010 16:05
...all cried out? There's been no comment since 12.48pm. Apart from this one, obviously.
 57 By MENdelsohnn, on 10-02-2010 17:14
Methinks its been common knowledge for some time that the MEN was being groomed for sale and that the obvious suitor was Trinity. In addition its been obvious for some time that regional/city TV channels like ChannelM don't work. With so much choice out there, why would anyone choose to watch mediocre cr&p like Channel M, we are after all not Americans. But the powers that be at the MEN (that includes Dodson) screwed up royally with Channel M and in doing so badly missed the boat with digital. Which is a shame, but it will be interesting to see what Trinity do with the MEN's digital collateral, because their Liverpool sites aren't exactly fantastic now are they? Whatever happens, the story has only really just begun, as that great bastion of Northern regional publishing Winston once said after the Battle of Bolton, "This isn't the end, or even the beginning of the end, but it may be the end of the beginning" (probably mis-quoted, welcome any pedants out there to set me right)
 58 By Curious, on 10-02-2010 17:53
Hmmm, I see that TM are now saying that the MEN may not move from Manchester after all... How curious, since the MEN reported today they were!
 59 By Paul, on 11-02-2010 10:52
So now it transpires that GMG Group retains the pension liability of Surrey & Berkshire Media - which according to McCall is about £4m. 
 
Add to that the liability of the Scott Place lease and surely GMG Group loses money on the deal? 
 
(If you ignore the long-term print contract which I still think is an accountant's balancing figure).
 60 By Brian, on 11-02-2010 12:06
I think we are being a little unfair on Mark Dodson. He had his heart in the right place. He may have made a mistake with Channel M, but hey, who has not made mistakes! He did his best and, I did used to work for him, so I can say that he was always honest with me, despite him making me redundant last year. 
 
One of the managers told me yesterday that Mark Dodson tried to stop the deal going through as he had a plan B, but GMG just wanted to get rid. Who knows, but I believe MD did better than most.
 61 By Susan Bell, on 11-02-2010 12:26
It is just a sad, sad, sad, sad, sad and even sad for the city of Manchester. We will now have a paper produced for us by Liverpool management. Calm down, calm down.
 62 By Susan Boyle, on 11-02-2010 22:29
Susan, anyone who works for Trinity will tell you that the orders come from London. MEN will be a company within Trinity, not run from Liverpool. And doesn't the Echo sell more than the MEN now anyway?
 63 By Captain Chaos, on 12-02-2010 07:31
By Exmen, on 10-02-2010 12:48 
For example cutting the Online department to fund Channel M at a time when the MEN had an immensely strong online brand second only to ThisisLondon in UU's and PI's. 
 
Where's your proof that the two events are linked? Sounds like person opinion getting in the way of actual facts to me.
 64 By OUTraged!, on 12-02-2010 10:47
@ Captain Chaos 
I'm deeply shocked at the suggestion that any of the unbiased, non-axe-grinding, balanced and even-handed commentors on this site may be guilty of letting personal opinion get in the way of the actual facts. Preposterous. After all, its well known that the wider media community is generally in agreement regarding what's gone/is going wrong, why it is or isn't happening and whose fault it is or isn't. Couldn't be simpler really and undoubtedly, as this fascinating story develops, all those who've posted on this thread will find themselves vindicated and their opinions justified. That's why its all become a bit anodyne on here. What about a bit of bitching, backbiting and maybe gouging?... What's that you say? Oh.
 65 By WTF, on 12-02-2010 12:42
I take a week off and it all goes t!ts up!? 
Still, GMG have held onto Channel m Ltd and ditched the MEN. I wonder why that is readers if channel m is such a loss making millstone??
 66 By OUTraged!, on 12-02-2010 13:32
@WTF 
 
I don't suppose it could by any chance be related to the possible fact that Trinity didn't want it and insisted that it be kept out of the deal as its such a liability? I mean if I was Trinity and was looking at the figs for Channel M, I wouldn't be making the deal conditional on Channel M being included. In fact it would be the exact opposite. Just because GMG have got it, it doesn't mean that they want it....
 67 By Megan, on 12-02-2010 15:19
In a BBC radio interview earlier this week Carolyn McCall confirmed GMG would not be hanging on to Channel M.
 68 By Drop Out, on 12-02-2010 15:34
Channel M was quite a brave and innovative move 8-10 years ago. It's been through a few (totally unsuccesful) incarnations since then but it has been plainy obviously for some time it was never likely to build an audience big enough to generate the revenue required and that most of them realised this many years ago. That was when the plug should have been pulled and their efforts concentrated on their core products and re-building their online credentials. Wasted years.
 69 By Mnonbeliever, on 12-02-2010 17:40
Channel M was a flawed product from the outset and it was obvious that a local tv station cannot get a large audience - ask Granada for their Manc viewing figures! It should never have been started in the first place - ask the LDP and their tv equivalent.
 70 By Deadmeat, on 12-02-2010 18:10
@WTF 
From what I hear, Channel M is going to be sold if a buyer can be found, if not it is going to be broken up and the components sold to whoever wants them! 
Why would they do that if it is such an asset!
 71 By Carl Johnstone, on 12-02-2010 18:11
MEN web site stats if you look back at 2007: 
 
"ManchesterEveningNews.com’s ABCe figure from November 2007, when it recorded 1.53 million unique visitors" ( http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=40532 ) compares very well when you look at the traffic figures the big groups were generating across their sites. 
 
It even compares well to the nationals: 
1 Guardian 2,677,000 uniques. 
2 Telegraph 2,079,000 uniques. 
3 Sun 2,049,000 uniques. 
4 Times 1,912,000 uniques. 
5 Daily Mail 1,434,000 uniques. 
6 Daily Mirror 721,000 uniques. 
 
( http://www.marketingservicestalk.com/news/nie/nie101.html )
 72 By WTF, on 12-02-2010 18:19
I'm talking about Channel m Ltd not Channel m...there's a BIG difference. Ch m ltd own a freeview licence and multiplex!! 
Trinity have missed a trick but maybe they didn't do enough due diligence. 
someone somewhere is going to make a shed full of money broadcasting via a Mux. 
 
too many 'experts' on here couldn't see the wood for the trees with channel m. Genius from Dodson if he's got the licence still with GMG. 
 
online...Murdoch will lead the way not some local or regional pay model. Who cares what the editor of the Salford advertiser thinks? and who's going to pay to read it online anyway!!?? 
 
enjoy the weekend and looking forward to the NUJ and Trinity going head to head very soon.
 73 By Tom N, on 12-02-2010 18:35
The MEN was simply expendable when it no longer acted as a "safety net" for The Guardian in London, with the regional business mere small fry. That's according to Carolyn McCall of the Guardian. Is it just me who finds this interview a little bit breathtaking? 
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/audio/2010/feb/11/carolyn-mccall-gmg-trinity-mirror
 74 By Rupert, on 12-02-2010 18:39
I have it on good authority that Sky are negotiating to buy Channel M as part of their incremental strategy to build an integrated sub-regional digital amortization strategy. good move. News by next Friday.
 75 By Murdoch, on 12-02-2010 19:00
I have it on good authority that Sky are negotiating to buy Channel M as part of their incremental strategy to build an integrated sub-regional digital amortization strategy. good move. News by next Friday. 
 
yeah, right!! 
Manchester City Council might step in though...
 76 By Diogenes, on 12-02-2010 20:01
@WTF Trinity have missed a trick but maybe they didn't do enough due diligence.  
someone somewhere is going to make a shed full of money broadcasting via a Mux.  
 
Can WTF explain how? Channel M isn't providing content that is not available elsewhere, and invariably other broadcasters do it better. But I'm prepared to listen to constructive and persuasive argument, if there is any.
 77 By Captain Chaos, on 12-02-2010 21:56
By Diogenes, on 12-02-2010 20:01 
Can WTF explain how? Channel M isn't providing content that is not available elsewhere, and invariably other broadcasters do it better. But I'm prepared to listen to constructive and persuasive argument, if there is any. 
 
Up until May last year Channel M 'was' providing content that wasn't available anywhere else, AND it was done much better than anyone else on the same budget. MEN made a massive mistake, they should've canned the news and kept everything else. Channel M Today is a pretty weak product. 
 
Money is made on the multiplex by reselling capacity. They'll make a mint off of this and not have to produce a minute of content themselves.
 78 By Colin, on 12-02-2010 22:34
To answer your question, WTF, as anyone who attended the staff announcement on Monday will tell you, GMG would happily have sold Channel M to Trinity too. They don't want to keep Channel M either. As for due diligence, if you understood what that actually meant, you'd understand why Trinity didn't buy Channel M, any part of it. It's still making huge losses. Heaven help it if it has to start paying for the stories from the MEN in the future, as other TV programmes have to. As for Dodson doing so well keeping Channel M with GMG, why should he care anymore? Still, maybe there is a brave visionary out there with money to burn. I doubt it somehow.
 79 By stood at the back (next to WTF, on 13-02-2010 11:53
to Colin - I was there at 10am and it was a strategic sell-off. The pointless babbling about 'being bled dry' and 'sold down the river' by GMG were embarrassing. And the NUJ rep got ripped to sheds by Ms McCall! 
ALL the MEN staff have all got jobs with Trinity, all moved across via TUPE and got a 6 month pension slab of cash!! FFS what more do you want? (I mean if any of you were any good you'd be working for the Guardian, right?) 
If you don't like Oldham, or the EXACT same terms you've already got(!) resign in protest...oh, but then again where else are you gonna get a job? 
There are lots of admin, security, channel m and other jobs being ended.NO opportunity to move to a cushy job with guaranteed benefits. The journos are just a bunch of selfish and mediocre @v^t5. 
Can't wait for the next issue of the Liverpool Evening News
 80 By Colin, on 13-02-2010 13:56
I think you misunderstand what I'm saying. I was responding to WTF's suggestion that GMG had sought to keep Channel M. That isn't the case, as was made clear on Monday, as you presumably know as well. Your description of the journalists is unfair, after all, they didn't seek for their title to be bought by another company. The cash burden that is Channel M is largely to blame for turning the MEN from a cash cow for GMG into a potential liability. So the journalists are probably relieved that the burden of Channel M is being removed from MEN at long last, after countless millions were wasted. Sadly, the result of that is that Channel M will probably close. Unlike WTF, who has often revelled in the job cuts at the MEN, I find that a very sad state of affairs because it's not those who have turned Channel M into a liability who will suffer as a result.
 81 By Oh dear, on 13-02-2010 14:39
Good way to get your new bosses on side.... 
 
 
http://www.southmanchesterreporter.co.uk/news/s/1191475_the_tale_of_the_two_taylors
 82 By holy trinity, on 13-02-2010 15:30
will the new, trinity owned MEN have video on its website? 
apparantly those pages were very popular for mancs outside the MEN region. 
 
If trinity's echo video content is anything to go by then the answer is a no or quality of a very poor standard. 
 
Colin - do you sit on the GMG board? if not how the hell do you know what GMG are thinking?? 
Also, now that the NUJ is a single chapel (only took 125 years!!) what happens to the massive funds extracted from members over the previous years? refunds? Cash Isa, shared amongst existing members? 
The NUJ haven't been shouting about that have they? possibly buy a coach to do the city centre - Oldham run?
 83 By stood at the back...still, on 13-02-2010 18:29
Colin - Your prose used means you are a disgruntled journo right? 
Channel m made a loss, as do printing press operations, rates on scott place etc etc etc. 
The real issue was the converged sales operation being unable or unwilling to sell online and TV products.  
put it another way, if you got a CV from someone who couldn't write proper grammar would they get a job? No 
So, why did the MEN sales dept think someone who sold classified adverts or leaflets 5 years ago could sell digital skyscapers or TV commercial airtime! That's why online and channel m 'failed' to generate revenues. 
To keep harping on about burdens, liabilities shows the true "I'm alright jack" mentality of the staffers. Good luck at Trinity...you are all going to need it.
 84 By Captain Chaos, on 13-02-2010 19:44
By holy trinity, on 13-02-2010 15:30  
will the new, trinity owned MEN have video on its website? 
 
Out of the 48 videos currently listed on the front page of the MEN website, 46 of them are made by Channel M. The two that are shot by journos on cameraphones are just embarrassing. 
 
By Colin, on 13-02-2010 13:56 
The cash burden that is Channel M is largely to blame for turning the MEN from a cash cow for GMG into a potential liability. So the journalists are probably relieved that the burden of Channel M is being removed from MEN at long last, after countless millions were wasted. 
 
What a load of tosh! Annually ~5% of MEN's turnover was spent on the running of Channel M. Unless you can somehow blame Channel M for the massive downturn in advertising revenue you need to find another scapegoat, maybe you should look at the sales people who stopped selling? They certainly won't be able to blame Channel M when TM starts laying people off to save money. 
 
I wish the staff of GMGRM the best of luck with TM because by god, it sounds like they'll need it.
 85 By tv licence, on 14-02-2010 13:05
As i have said elsewhere on this site the NUJ should concentrate on fundamental things.Such as extracting from the Guardian that they underwrite the enhanced redundancy terms for 2 years.That they put 12 months into everyone's pension pots as opposed to the 6 they gave without asking.Their should be a price for the Guardian's betrayal. 
BTW number 79 the NUJ rep was not 'ripped to shreds' by Ms Mccall. 
BTW number 79
 86 By Colin, on 14-02-2010 19:04
Captain Chaos and Still Stood At The Back - why so bitter? Why the weasel words about wishing people luck in the future?  
 
Agree with what Stood At the Back about trying to get people to sell across platforms. That's part of the problem, another part of the problem (perhaps the bigger part) is convincing people of the value of a city-based TV station with low viewing figures. 
 
Captain Chaos: Quality is subjective. Do we all perhaps need to face up to the fact that it's journalists, not readers/viewers/users who care most about quality? And did the few hundred views per video on the MEN website justify the cost of Channel M? Probably not.
 87 By OMGMG, on 14-02-2010 19:15
Why should GMG do anything if it's a sell-off? 
6 months pension plus TUPE means you won't notice any changes for at least 6 months...why so scared of TM?? Could it be the NUJ is shadow of its former self these days. Sly Bailey axe in hand but the NUJ will do.......absolutely nothing. 
 
 
BTW number 79 the NUJ rep was not 'ripped to shreds' by Ms Mccall.  
We we'll just have to see what the new chapel brings - what i witnessed was a pathetic monologue on history rather than a focus on the future. McCall gave a classic put down - I didn't hear any comeback from the NUJ rep? It's happening, deal with it with some grace and maybe focus on the journalism again.

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